Christoph Rella, a journalist who has been at past DeepSec conferences made telephone interviews with MiKa and me. He explored the difference between White Hats and Black Hats along with the motivations of hackers. He was interested in getting to know the reasons why the stereotype of the nice IT guy turns criminal. We think the motivations are vastly different, money being among them. Mr. Rella published a summary in an article for the Wiener Zeitung (in German).